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	<title>Comments on: Fun and The Games: Contrary to popular opinion&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: m-dawg</title>
		<link>http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/08/25/fun-and-the-games-contrary-to-popular-opinion/#comment-63354</link>
		<dc:creator>m-dawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The nightlife guide Time Out Beijing is planning a double issue for August and September: there’s not enough going on to fill two single issues.&quot;

I don&#039;t know what&#039;s more pitiful -- that the editor would say that or the journalist that interviewed him actually published it.

I guess George Benson, Al Jarreau, Kanye West, Air, the Paralympics, the China Open, Turandot, a dozen new restaurant and bar openings and about 100 other events around town -- all happening in September -- doesn&#039;t add up to much in Time Out&#039;s books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The nightlife guide Time Out Beijing is planning a double issue for August and September: there’s not enough going on to fill two single issues.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s more pitiful &#8212; that the editor would say that or the journalist that interviewed him actually published it.</p>
<p>I guess George Benson, Al Jarreau, Kanye West, Air, the Paralympics, the China Open, Turandot, a dozen new restaurant and bar openings and about 100 other events around town &#8212; all happening in September &#8212; doesn&#8217;t add up to much in Time Out&#8217;s books.</p>
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		<title>By: The Village Grouch</title>
		<link>http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/08/25/fun-and-the-games-contrary-to-popular-opinion/#comment-63111</link>
		<dc:creator>The Village Grouch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have three words for any editor who said such things in my employ, just prior to the world&#039;s largest sporting event, and said them not just once, but multiple times: you are fired.

Every other publication, Chinese or otherwise, was absolutely packed with Olympic content. What did TimeOut not know that everyone else did?

I wonder, did Song make much money during the Olympics, and if it did, did Mr. Pattinson have much to say about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have three words for any editor who said such things in my employ, just prior to the world&#8217;s largest sporting event, and said them not just once, but multiple times: you are fired.</p>
<p>Every other publication, Chinese or otherwise, was absolutely packed with Olympic content. What did TimeOut not know that everyone else did?</p>
<p>I wonder, did Song make much money during the Olympics, and if it did, did Mr. Pattinson have much to say about that?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel LaRusso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel LaRusso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M-dawg:  I wholeheartedly agree with you.  The editor of Time Out was incorrect when he prognosticated that parties during the Games would either prove to be &quot;private&quot; or nonexistent.   

While there certainly were a number of corporate parties and events during the Games (i.e. Adidas party, Speedo party, Club Bud, USA House)...the celeb watch on this blog has demonstrably shown that numerous celebs ventured out to places as diverse as Bling, Blok8, China Doll and mixed it up with the locals.  

Beijing nightlife during the Games &quot;very dull?&quot;  Did the Time Out Beijing editor see the rooftop terrace at Kokomo during the Games?

Ibiza it was not but Beijing nightlife certainly could not have been characterized as very dull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M-dawg:  I wholeheartedly agree with you.  The editor of Time Out was incorrect when he prognosticated that parties during the Games would either prove to be &#8220;private&#8221; or nonexistent.   </p>
<p>While there certainly were a number of corporate parties and events during the Games (i.e. Adidas party, Speedo party, Club Bud, USA House)&#8230;the celeb watch on this blog has demonstrably shown that numerous celebs ventured out to places as diverse as Bling, Blok8, China Doll and mixed it up with the locals.  </p>
<p>Beijing nightlife during the Games &#8220;very dull?&#8221;  Did the Time Out Beijing editor see the rooftop terrace at Kokomo during the Games?</p>
<p>Ibiza it was not but Beijing nightlife certainly could not have been characterized as very dull.</p>
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		<title>By: boyce</title>
		<link>http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/08/25/fun-and-the-games-contrary-to-popular-opinion/#comment-63059</link>
		<dc:creator>boyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s amazing is that a magazine like Time Out can&#039;t find enough going on in August to justify a September issue. Beijing only held the Olympics, had a slew of bar and restaurant openings, saw a slew of celebs in town, etc. Yeah, nothing going on here...

Do you think HQ in London has a clue about what is going on with its magazine in China?

Cheers, Boyce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s amazing is that a magazine like Time Out can&#8217;t find enough going on in August to justify a September issue. Beijing only held the Olympics, had a slew of bar and restaurant openings, saw a slew of celebs in town, etc. Yeah, nothing going on here&#8230;</p>
<p>Do you think HQ in London has a clue about what is going on with its magazine in China?</p>
<p>Cheers, Boyce</p>
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		<title>By: m-dawg</title>
		<link>http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/08/25/fun-and-the-games-contrary-to-popular-opinion/#comment-63056</link>
		<dc:creator>m-dawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they gave out Medals for Pessimism and Poor Prognostication, I&#039;d give this guy the Gold in both:

from http://www.newsweek.com/id/147780:
&lt;b&gt;The nightlife guide Time Out Beijing is planning a double issue for August and September: there&#039;s not enough going on to fill two single issues. ... &quot;In the month of the Olympics, there&#039;s less to write about than at any time in the last few years,&quot; says the magazine&#039;s editor, Tom Pattinson. &quot;It&#039;s either a private party, or it&#039;s not happening.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

from http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-fg-fun26-2008jul26,0,2...
&lt;b&gt;&quot;It&#039;s really a shame,&quot; said Tom Pattinson, editor of Time Out, an entertainment listings magazine, whose July issue for Beijing lists the best bars and nightspots. &quot;Beijing had really bloomed in the past 18 months, but the next few months will be dull.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

from http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/jul/28/olympicgames2008.china:
&lt;b&gt;&quot;Instead of showcasing Beijing as the great modern cultural city that actually it is, people are going to see something more likely to conform to the negative stereotype now ... You&#039;ve got beer gardens being told &#039;No beer in the garden,&#039;&quot; said Tom Pattinson, editor of Time Out Beijing.&lt;/b&gt;

from http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/kinming_liu/2008/07/the_no...
&lt;b&gt;Tom Pattinson, editor of English-language entertainment listings magazine Time Out Beijing, said the prospects for Games-time nightlife looked &quot;very dull.&quot; &quot;All those athletes who want to let their hair down and get drunk for the first time in four years are going to have a hard time doing it,&quot; he said.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they gave out Medals for Pessimism and Poor Prognostication, I&#8217;d give this guy the Gold in both:</p>
<p>from <a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/147780" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsweek.com/id/147780</a>:<br />
<b>The nightlife guide Time Out Beijing is planning a double issue for August and September: there&#8217;s not enough going on to fill two single issues. &#8230; &#8220;In the month of the Olympics, there&#8217;s less to write about than at any time in the last few years,&#8221; says the magazine&#8217;s editor, Tom Pattinson. &#8220;It&#8217;s either a private party, or it&#8217;s not happening.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>from <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-fg-fun26-2008jul26,0,2.." rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-fg-fun26-2008jul26,0,2..</a>.<br />
<b>&#8220;It&#8217;s really a shame,&#8221; said Tom Pattinson, editor of Time Out, an entertainment listings magazine, whose July issue for Beijing lists the best bars and nightspots. &#8220;Beijing had really bloomed in the past 18 months, but the next few months will be dull.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>from <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/jul/28/olympicgames2008.china" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/jul/28/olympicgames2008.china</a>:<br />
<b>&#8220;Instead of showcasing Beijing as the great modern cultural city that actually it is, people are going to see something more likely to conform to the negative stereotype now &#8230; You&#8217;ve got beer gardens being told &#8216;No beer in the garden,&#8217;&#8221; said Tom Pattinson, editor of Time Out Beijing.</b></p>
<p>from <a href="http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/kinming_liu/2008/07/the_no.." rel="nofollow">http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/kinming_liu/2008/07/the_no..</a>.<br />
<b>Tom Pattinson, editor of English-language entertainment listings magazine Time Out Beijing, said the prospects for Games-time nightlife looked &#8220;very dull.&#8221; &#8220;All those athletes who want to let their hair down and get drunk for the first time in four years are going to have a hard time doing it,&#8221; he said.</b></p>
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		<title>By: boyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>boyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kevin,

I would need to practice having &quot;no fun&quot; to really make that look work, but it goes against my nature.

Two weeks of fun: with friends, with strangers, in bars, on rooftops, in stadiums, on streets. Hard to believe it is already over.

Cheers, Boyce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kevin,</p>
<p>I would need to practice having &#8220;no fun&#8221; to really make that look work, but it goes against my nature.</p>
<p>Two weeks of fun: with friends, with strangers, in bars, on rooftops, in stadiums, on streets. Hard to believe it is already over.</p>
<p>Cheers, Boyce</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, you looked great on NBC with that &quot;no fun&quot; look.  I am kidding.  I had a blast during the Olympics, and received a late night phone call from a friend claiming he got a Bronze.  If you know what I mean.  It seems pretty fun for me with all the parties and events around, and I hadn&#039;t stayed out till 7 in the morning for a long time like the last 2 weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, you looked great on NBC with that &#8220;no fun&#8221; look.  I am kidding.  I had a blast during the Olympics, and received a late night phone call from a friend claiming he got a Bronze.  If you know what I mean.  It seems pretty fun for me with all the parties and events around, and I hadn&#8217;t stayed out till 7 in the morning for a long time like the last 2 weeks.</p>
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