Comments on: Drug raid in Sanlitun sees more than 20 arrested http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/ A Somewhat Young China Hand on the Local Drinking Scene Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:20:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: boyce http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55512 boyce Mon, 14 Apr 2008 06:50:41 +0000 http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55512 @ b. cheng, No worries avoiding Pure Girl, at least for now - all four branches remain closed. By the way, for those who didn't read it, here's b. cheng's post on Pure Girl(s): http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://huoleifeng.blogspot.com/2008/03/one-or-more-less-pure-girls.html Cheers, Boyce Cheers, Jim @ b. cheng,

No worries avoiding Pure Girl, at least for now – all four branches remain closed.

By the way, for those who didn’t read it, here’s b. cheng’s post on Pure Girl(s):

http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://huoleifeng.blogspot.com/2008/03/one-or-more-less-pure-girls.html

Cheers, Boyce
Cheers, Jim

]]> By: b. cheng http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55508 b. cheng Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:06:49 +0000 http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55508 Interesting, but not at all surprising...I was walking down that street about a month ago after shopping at 3.3 and saw a large police presence at Pure Girl, seemed like it was getting busted for something and the police was videotaping and photographing everything, but this seems like it was even bigger. Basically, Pure Girl should be avoided at all costs. Interesting, but not at all surprising…I was walking down that street about a month ago after shopping at 3.3 and saw a large police presence at Pure Girl, seemed like it was getting busted for something and the police was videotaping and photographing everything, but this seems like it was even bigger. Basically, Pure Girl should be avoided at all costs.

]]> By: Brock http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55480 Brock Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:51:55 +0000 http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55480 @Sophia The reason we were allowed to wander around was because when we saw the police we smiled and said hello, whereas you screamed and hit the deck. Guilty concious, much :P? I hear Jamie Andy and Larry all got three months... thats pretty shitty. They get done for complicity, but the people they were complicit with are let off... not sure how that works. @Questions about ID - after they had held me for a while one asked for some, and i showed my drivers liscence. It fits in my wallet snugly, and worked fine. @Sophia The reason we were allowed to wander around was because when we saw the police we smiled and said hello, whereas you screamed and hit the deck. Guilty concious, much :P?

I hear Jamie Andy and Larry all got three months… thats pretty shitty. They get done for complicity, but the people they were complicit with are let off… not sure how that works.

@Questions about ID – after they had held me for a while one asked for some, and i showed my drivers liscence. It fits in my wallet snugly, and worked fine.

]]> By: Sophia http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55380 Sophia Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:14:00 +0000 http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55380 @ Boyce No it doesn't it makes it better than the kids just sneaking out and getting imaginly wasted... I am not happy with those little kids out and when I see them I always laugh and make fun of them but it's the parents decision. I'm not saying it's a good decision but this is how beijing is like. @ Todd Remember me ? The girl from the table... Where did you go afterwards I didn't see you anymore... Did you stay with Yifei ? This is the video that got released by the Chinese police. This is a french translation of it though. It's still cool to watch you can see how they plan it all and how they then run into sanlitun and all. http://aujourdhuilachine.fr/actualites-chine-version-policiere-en-video-des-incidents-de-sanlitun-6449.asp?1=1&IdVideo=2 Since it is the video of the chinese police it doesn't show anyhting of the things they did to the people. It just shows the "good things"... @ Boyce

No it doesn’t it makes it better than the kids just sneaking out and getting imaginly wasted… I am not happy with those little kids out and when I see them I always laugh and make fun of them but it’s the parents decision. I’m not saying it’s a good decision but this is how beijing is like.

@ Todd
Remember me ? The girl from the table…
Where did you go afterwards I didn’t see you anymore… Did you stay with Yifei ?

This is the video that got released by the Chinese police. This is a french translation of it though. It’s still cool to watch you can see how they plan it all and how they then run into sanlitun and all.
http://aujourdhuilachine.fr/actualites-chine-version-policiere-en-video-des-incidents-de-sanlitun-6449.asp?1=1&IdVideo=2
Since it is the video of the chinese police it doesn’t show anyhting of the things they did to the people. It just shows the “good things”…

]]> By: boyce http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55377 boyce Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:36:16 +0000 http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55377 @ Sophia, There are a lot of fights in Sanlitun and a common story among the people caught up in them, at least of those of which I am aware, is they thought the area was "safe" -- that it wouldn't happen to them. Re the eighth-graders, you write, "at least most parents know they are out and know where the kids are." It makes it even worse that the parents know this is going on. @ Todd, I watched for about 30 minutes and that's the impression I got - it was well-orchestrated. The only people that seemed even a bit out of control were the photographers. @ Kelvin, Exactly. Cheers, Boyce @ Sophia,

There are a lot of fights in Sanlitun and a common story among the people caught up in them, at least of those of which I am aware, is they thought the area was “safe” — that it wouldn’t happen to them.

Re the eighth-graders, you write, “at least most parents know they are out and know where the kids are.” It makes it even worse that the parents know this is going on.

@ Todd,

I watched for about 30 minutes and that’s the impression I got – it was well-orchestrated. The only people that seemed even a bit out of control were the photographers.

@ Kelvin,

Exactly.

Cheers, Boyce

]]> By: Kelvin http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55375 Kelvin Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:10:04 +0000 http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55375 I'm always astounded at the number of foreigners in China who seem to think that they're entitled to buy and use drugs, at will, without the interference of the public authorities. And I'm even more astounded when they act like a crackdown on those purchases and use is some sort of human right violation. What were you all expecting? A commendation? I’m always astounded at the number of foreigners in China who seem to think that they’re entitled to buy and use drugs, at will, without the interference of the public authorities. And I’m even more astounded when they act like a crackdown on those purchases and use is some sort of human right violation.

What were you all expecting? A commendation?

]]> By: Todd http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55374 Todd Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:49:09 +0000 http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55374 I was amidst the chaos when it occurred and I thought that the raid was very well orchestrated. When I saw the police I stuck my hands up in the air, pasted a shit eating grin on my face, and sat down. They did not pester me beyond that. They didn't ask for ID or even talk to me(which is good because I had no ID). It's funny to me though because there is a police station literally just around the corner and I am 100% sure that the police would have known about the drug dealers nested in the Pure Girls. I guess that just confirms the whole "PR" thing. I am just disappointed at the possibility of Sanlitun's 'lesser known' bar street becoming deserted and turning into another Black sun and Franks. I was also going to do a news story on underage drinking (not trying to say its bad or 'expose' the dangers, but rather a more social perspective - what it means for kids) , but I dont think that will happen now. I was amidst the chaos when it occurred and I thought that the raid was very well orchestrated. When I saw the police I stuck my hands up in the air, pasted a shit eating grin on my face, and sat down. They did not pester me beyond that. They didn’t ask for ID or even talk to me(which is good because I had no ID). It’s funny to me though because there is a police station literally just around the corner and I am 100% sure that the police would have known about the drug dealers nested in the Pure Girls. I guess that just confirms the whole “PR” thing. I am just disappointed at the possibility of Sanlitun’s ‘lesser known’ bar street becoming deserted and turning into another Black sun and Franks. I was also going to do a news story on underage drinking (not trying to say its bad or ‘expose’ the dangers, but rather a more social perspective – what it means for kids) , but I dont think that will happen now.

]]> By: Sophia http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55359 Sophia Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:25:26 +0000 http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55359 @ Boyce I know that there are fights and all I have enough friends that are stupid enough to get into them... But if I think of my home country, I've never been out there because there is one dead person every weekend and that because of fights or alcohol and shit. The people here, the foreigners that go out more or less care about each other and take care of each other, that's what I mean with safe. The possibility that you ahve someone die on the street cause the person is too drunk is really small. Even if you don't know that person and it's a foreigner, you go and help them. I would never go out in Austria I would be way too scared there any Austria is a pretty safe country... I am not saying I am happy with the 8th graders out. And that they drink - but at least most parents know they are out and know where the kids are. The ones that lie to their parents are just fucked up and stupid. I would never go out if my parents don't know where I am even though I am 18 and can stay out as long as I want... At least my parents know where I am about... @ Boyce

I know that there are fights and all I have enough friends that are stupid enough to get into them…
But if I think of my home country, I’ve never been out there because there is one dead person every weekend and that because of fights or alcohol and shit.
The people here, the foreigners that go out more or less care about each other and take care of each other, that’s what I mean with safe. The possibility that you ahve someone die on the street cause the person is too drunk is really small. Even if you don’t know that person and it’s a foreigner, you go and help them. I would never go out in Austria I would be way too scared there any Austria is a pretty safe country…

I am not saying I am happy with the 8th graders out. And that they drink – but at least most parents know they are out and know where the kids are.
The ones that lie to their parents are just fucked up and stupid. I would never go out if my parents don’t know where I am even though I am 18 and can stay out as long as I want… At least my parents know where I am about…

]]> By: LACJ http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55358 LACJ Tue, 08 Apr 2008 07:39:43 +0000 http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55358 I was wandering around Shanghai yesterday in the subway and they had cops with dogs posted in a couple stations. Cute little dogs, spaniels I guess, not German shepherds or anything. Didn't see anything happen but you can just guess what they are trained to smell. I was wandering around Shanghai yesterday in the subway and they had cops with dogs posted in a couple stations. Cute little dogs, spaniels I guess, not German shepherds or anything. Didn’t see anything happen but you can just guess what they are trained to smell.

]]> By: boyce http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55342 boyce Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:33:53 +0000 http://www.beijingboyce.com/2008/04/05/drug-raid-in-sanlitun-sees-more-than-20-arrested/#comment-55342 I don't hang out in Pure Girl (any of them) and have no idea about "big Dave", "protection money" or that scene in general. But I'm pretty much convinced the authorities aren't fooling around for the next four months. So be careful where you go and what you do, and always carry some ID. @ Sophia, "The parents know the kids go out and they let them because compared to so many other towns and countries beijing is SAFE." Maybe "safer," but "safe"? There are fights every week in Sanlitun, lots of fake alcohol, and - just the other night - you had a gun pointed at you. Anyone who lets their eighth-grade kid go to Sanlitun at night because it's "safe" should have his or her parenting license revoked. Cheer, Boyce I don’t hang out in Pure Girl (any of them) and have no idea about “big Dave”, “protection money” or that scene in general.

But I’m pretty much convinced the authorities aren’t fooling around for the next four months. So be careful where you go and what you do, and always carry some ID.

@ Sophia,

“The parents know the kids go out and they let them because compared to so many other towns and countries beijing is SAFE.”

Maybe “safer,” but “safe”? There are fights every week in Sanlitun, lots of fake alcohol, and – just the other night – you had a gun pointed at you. Anyone who lets their eighth-grade kid go to Sanlitun at night because it’s “safe” should have his or her parenting license revoked.

Cheer, Boyce

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